Friday, October 06, 2006

My First Flame

Always been interested in Blog-wars and what flamers have to 'share'. But never been personally attacked by an anonymous for something i've said (by the way its been about one year since my biggest blog issue so far, the irony).

This is really nothing. Made my heart race and got me thinking a bit. Admit i am offended but it really is nothing, it's just an anonymous, not like the two friends i lost a year ago.

So what did i do?

A friend blogged about this new 10million building of worship and i was rather unhappy with the money spent. So i asked in a comment

But what is the building used for in the other six days of the week??
And errr... isn't it better spending half of the 10 mill on charity?"
Monday, October 02, 2006 9:15:31 PM

and she said

"Sue Lin, church doesn't only operates on Sunday.
And just in case you know, the building itself is a charity from the church."
Monday, October 02, 2006 9:26:47 PM

A lil short so i asked further

"But what do they do in the other six days?
Can explain what u mean by the building itself is a charity from the church??"
Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:50:25 PM

Before my friend replied...

"Anonymous said...

sue lin, what a stupid statement you had make?! Seems like you are not a christian? So, HI! Because I am not one too. But what you've stated shows how shallow you are. Why not put it this way,forget about staying in your current house. Sell it out to get a smaller one like a government flat and tell them that you need a low cost house because you are doing CHARITY and, forget about enjoying life. Go help in the orphanage house instead of talking nonsense about churches.

To educate you, churches have their administration works to do too. You think they don't have to do any documentation works before the government approves them to build such building? Read more law. People don't only go to church on Sundays. And what she meant by the building itself is a charity. Not quite sure but I think she meant that the existence of the new building is from the donations by the church members. Donations = charity?

J, why do you keep such friends that don't even respct your religion? I am not a Christian but I'd like to say that, don't step away from your own beliefs. It won't do you good. Have faith and all the best"

Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:13:48 PM

"Anonymous said...

had *made.

ANd Sue Lin, you sure you are a Malaysia that doesn't seems to understand the culture and religions here?"

Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:14:56 PM

My friend was nice about it

"anonymous, she's just curious.. don't be so harsh
Come on.. we are just learning..

Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:35:59 AM

I read the thing only today. Whoa! Heart rate increased man! But i was so touched with my friend! I felt bad cuz i knew i was rude... I should not have done what i did... racial issues/politics/religion are no-no for Blogs. Sensitive issues. I was asking for trouble. So i said:

"Hey, thanks J for being so nice. Sorry, i WAS rude. Really sorry. Thanks, will read your explaination tonight, busy day ahead, just popping by."
Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:08:53 AM

Really felt bad to my friend. She's sooo sweet...

"Sue, you were not rude. I am fine with it.
I am sorry for the misunderstanding caused though :/"
Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:48:11 PM

She even smsed me to talk about it. She was concerned if i was hurt. I find that so sweet! I mean... it was my fault laaaaa. None of the RM10million is my money, why should i care if it was spent on a place of worship?

And i talked to my friend about it today (during poll clerk duty =P) and he made me realize that religion did help a lot of people. Maybe religion hasn't helped me in a big way yet, but i can't deny that it has helped many others (i have my opinion on that but i shall keep it to myself).

Also, though the "sell house part" and the "forget about enjoying" part really got me, it is true. I should stop my "i promote charity!" shit, shouldn't i? BTW, i'm donating blood tomorrow, join me?

After much thought (and praising myself for not feeling too insulted by this flamer), i commented:

"anonymous, I thank you for making me realize things. I admit i am wrong but you could have said it in a nice way. Yes, you are doing a better job at respecting other religions than me. I admire that and will learn from you in that particular area. However, you should learn to be more diplomatic and humble."
Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:59:39 PM

I also added a one liner in the comment about the anonymous's grammar. This sentence alone is terrible! "you sure you are a Malaysia that doesn't seems to understand the culture and religions here?"

I think the 'Oh So Perfect Citizen' meant "Are you sure you are a Malaysian? You don't seem to understand the culture and the religions practiced here."

Terrible usage of punctuations, fragmented sentence structure...

I should stop this too. Every time i see a flamer i don't like in Malaysian blogs, i tend to criticize their grammar... Haha, i guess it is kind of human nature. You are judged by the way u present yourself. If met this anonymous in person, i'd find faults in her/his appearances. But since this is purely and entirely in text, i target his/her grammar...

Enough la. Gotta go.

Note: Please do not defend me or anything in my friend's blog, u may read it but please please don't comment on the issue, i do not want to make it a big matter. Did not want to even leave a link at first.

Note (Added 9.45pm 6 October): I bolded some of the words. And I am not responsible for any of the comments posted here except for those posted by me.


MaS said...

Hahahaha, u kena flame .... muahahahahaha ...

Well, i read it, it is good, but i think jess was in a good mood n really was kind to help ya. the other guy on the other hand was pretty sucky mood. dats wat i think. lousy bugger. he doesnt really know much does he. i guess as much cos he is a sucky fellow who doesnt use his brain to talk but use his ASSHOLE to think ... no wonder he is an asshole ... hehehe

alright ... have fun ... hehehehe

She's Jess said...

elwyn, which guy are you referring to?

Chuang Shyue Chou said...

Hello, I have something to say. You don't want us to say anything, right?

Jazzy*Pam said...

I loathe people who hide in anonymity, who's too coward to reveal who they are when making a statement. Period.

Marcus@Home said...
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sue lin said...

Mas, aiya... maybe i shouldn't have ket u comment... but since u already did no choice lar leave it there. Deleting a comment would be worse than posting it.

Jess, sorry. I think he's referring to the anonymous...

Chuang Shyue Chou! U got me really curious! I said don't comment in her Blog, but i didn't say anything about here right? Would love to hear your view.

Cher, yeah! Totally abhorrent!

Comment Deleted, why did u delete your comment?? =(

MaS said...

heyya, ahhh jess, the guy who i am referring to is the anonymous guy who didnt really think b4 saying stuff ... hehehe somewat like me. It is bcos i hate ppl who just hides behind being anonymous that is the reason why i was saying he was a freaking stupid guy to say such things ...

sorry jess if i did insult u ... or u also mr chuang shyue chou ... but if he wanted to make a proper comment dat bangs a person he shud take responsibility by revealing himself ... dats wat i think ...

soo since he is daring enuf to hide behind being anonymous, then bring it on ...

sue lin said...

Mas, thank you for trying to make things better

Chuang Shyue Chou said...

Sue Lin, I think you should have strength in your convictions. What you said is not necessarily wrong. Do we really want clerics wearing gold-plated Rolexes and driving huge Mercedes Benzs if they were espousing a spirtual life. When clerics who are supposing to be adherents of a life of spirituality engage in ostentious materialism, then, what gives? The clerics are not above criticism. They are after all fallible, like all human beings.

Mas, I don't know what or who you referring to actually. I haven't visited that blog and I have no intention to. And I have also no intention in getting involved in whatever flame war there is over there. It's seriously tiresome to get involve and tedious to read flames. Maybe, if I were twenty years younger, I would be curious. Today, no.

sue lin said...

Strength in my conviction. Sigh. I am still unhappy with 10million going into a building of worship.

I mean... i have attended two Christian camps and i attended church for a few weeks after the second camp.

In one of the above i've been told that u can pray anywhere, it doesn't have to be in a church. So is a ten million building really necesssary? There are so many homeless people out there...

But well. The way i asked the question was rude... and the selling house part is true. And really, none of the ten million came from me, so i don't have any say in how it is spent

Anonymous said...

politicians running countries,businessmen opening ordinary shops etc.. These people are intelligent people who use their 'proxies' to cover their illegal works.we will never know what is hidden behind their works and this is no exception when it comes to people who build churches or temples.They might use the places of worship in their money laundering activities.of course there are good politicians and religious people but as Christians,we DO NOT NEED such an expensive church just to worship God or as a charity centre.

sue lin said...

Dear anonymous, from your style of writing and from your stand in the comment, i can see that u are not the horrible anonymous in my friend's Blog.

I sincerely thank you for your effort. What you say is inevitable and your clarrification is much appreciated.

To whom it may concern. I know that mas commented because he loves me but the comment does not make much sense and i don't like the way it is written.

I have spoken to mas over the phone and through smses regarding that particular comment. I appreciate him defending me but i don't approve of his comment.

typlotion said...

fuck! i seriously dosn't think that you did any goddamn stuff wrong. What's wrong with asking something that you don't know? Sue Lin you even asked for explain about how the worship building works politely. mind you, POLITELY. Let go of other issue and just concentrate on this one, you are abso-fucking-lutely not wrong at all!

Sometimes some dickhead just trying to raise issue. They feel happy when their reply successfully offend people. Annonymous summore? fuckin' show your identity la damnit.

sue lin said...

Typlotion, thanks but cool down, its ok lar. U and another girl think there is nothing wrong with my question.
But my bestfriend who is a Catholic said that i shouldn't have asked the way i asked.
So everyone sees it differently kuaaaa